Source: The Ringer Wrestling Show — Building the Perfect Wrestler. Plus, Swerve Strickland Discusses His Evolution at AEW Four Years Later and More!

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Hulk Hogan book announcement

I literally turned in the final manuscript [for my Hogan book] last night. The book is called 'Why Hulk Hogan Matters.' It's not a love letter, but he's the most important wrestler probably of our lifetimes.

David Shoemaker

CM Punk's current character

It feels like [Punk] is working heel right now. The look on his face when he left the ring made me think so. It almost seems like he's leaning into the heel to see what happens just to sort of light the fire a little bit.

David Shoemaker

Elimination Chamber booking

I think they should get rid of the Elimination Chamber as a WrestleMania season event. It absolutely messes up the road to WrestleMania or just makes it too static.

David Shoemaker

CM Punk's wrestling style

I'm the hugest CM Punk fan in the world, but in a vacuum, he's not [the perfect wrestler]. I would never pick his style for my creator wrestler. He's just a little bit too like a regular guy, like an average Joe, in terms of his intonation and everything like that.

David Shoemaker

Adam Copeland and Christian Cage

I don't know what's going on with Adam Copeland right now. I don't know where he is. I assume whatever he's doing is the reason why Christian is just off TV permanently now—they're waiting for him to come back to be a reunion.

David Shoemaker

Hulk Hogan documentary

There's a Hogan documentary coming out that I did not produce. I was not a part of it, but I did a little interview for it.

David Shoemaker

WrestleMania fantasy booking

If WrestleMania was going to have an exploding barbed wire death match, who would you want to see in that match? I mean... the Wyatt Sicks. Yeah, I think I want to see the Wyatt Sicks.

Brian H. Waters

Swerve Strickland's evolution

I love Swerve Strickland with the weight gain. I love that AEW leans into that—that he's added mass. It's for a reason.

David Shoemaker

Best wrestling finishers

The stunner might be the best finisher. The kick to the gut is a huge piece of it. It can be done anywhere at any point in the match. There's no avalanche version of it, which I'm not sure is a net negative.

David Shoemaker

Wrestling theme songs

The correct answer [for the worst theme song downgrade] is Hulk Hogan, NWO Hulk Hogan, the second time he came out in the show, when they did not have the rights to use Voodoo Child and they just played fake Voodoo Child. That was the biggest downgrade.

David Shoemaker